Tin City Dweller

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Tin City is a small village build out of corrugated iron sheets. It is located near Anna Bay – Stockton Bight Sand Dunes. It was build by very poor people before Second World War as the villages found they could survive on abundance of Pipis and fish from the sea. Today, there are apparently still three residents there who use the shacks as their base for fishing. Maintaining the huts is difficult as the dunes move everyday and to keep your home above the sand is a daily chore.

The pictured man was living in the hut, which was allegedly used as a pub in a famous movie [reference removed due to ambiguity of the claim]. As you can see from the comments below this seems to be a good story of tour operators rather than the truth. Note: this image is referenced by Wikipedia under term ” Stockton Beach, New South Wales

Update [February 2014]: This seems to be a story that gained a live of its own because of the reference to the movie. So, here for the clarity I repeat: I am not an expert on the movie. The story was told to us by the tour operator who took us around the Stockton Bight Sand Dunes. I have no reason to trust or distrust the tour operator, or for that matter people who send the requests to remove that reference.

Update [March 2014]: Reference to movie name removed from main story. I have to state, I consider myself censored at this point, reporting an a simple story I experienced.  However, I have made the adjustments as I do recognise the actual truth is more important than me repeating a tour operator’s narrative. What does such approach do to story telling?

  • Graeme

    Sorry Ted for the trouble, but I was only asking that the reference to Mad Max be removed as it is misleading. (A quick internet search using the words “mad Max filming locations” will demonstrate.)

    You have made it clear that you are only “repeating the tour guides words” and that you are not interested in validating the tour guides information, in reference to the use of his information on your website, that was provided as part of a paid tour, that you as a customer participated in, of Stockton Beach.

    As Wikipedia is now using your information as a reference you are validating its “Stockton Beach” entry by allowing Wikipedia the use of your information. I hope you can see the paradox here?

    In wikipedia referencing the information, that “you” (through your web site) have provided, other Tour Operators who choose to use Wikipedia for reference material as part of their tours may be considered to be engaged in false or misleading advertising.

    Now I am no lawyer but having spoken to Department of Fair Trading, this department has expressed a serious attitude towards any complaint submitted in connection with any claim concerning the history of Tin City or claims that any movie was filmed on Stockton Beach.

    If you wish to bury your head in the sand so be it, that is your right.

    If you wish to clarify the Mad Max issue I have provided the following links concerning the filming locations.

    Again I do not wish to dishonour your work but I will remind you that you have apparently stated that if a photo offends somebody you will remove it. If this is the case, and it applies to your comments, I hope you will amend your information.

    http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/m/Mad-Max.html#.Uv88i38aySM

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079501/locations

    http://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max/filming-locations/index.html

    http://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max-2-the-road-warrior/filming-locations/index.html

    http://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max-beyond-thunderdome/filming-locations/index.html

    As a person with depression I am always looking for clarity and as such I hope the web links provide you with some clarity also.

    I do not wish to ruin any commercial business by making formal complaints but if the information is wrong or cannot be substantiated in the eyes of the law, it is false.

    It is in the same boat as slander. You repeat a rumour or start one against a person without any proof of the claims made in the statement circulated that statement could be considered misleading and therefore unlawful.

    Why Wikipedia has chosen to use your web site, a New South Wales Parliament record, a tour operators website and a ebook with no reference to Mad Max in the book as references rather than the National Film and Sound Archives is a question people should be asking?

    Yes this subject has taken on a life of its own.

    Please help to end it.

  • Graeme

    Ted are you saying that Mad Max was filmed on Stockton beach?

    I am a bit curious as to the comment that:

    “The pictured man was living in the hut, which was allegedly used as a pub in a famous movie with Mel Gibson – The Mad Max.”

    A number of questions have to be asked:

    1. Which Mad Max movie of the 3 produced was filmed allegedly at Stockton beach?

    2. Which Mad Max movie featured a pub?

    3. Why would a pub be situated away from any roads or other buildings as photos of Tin City show?

    In relation to the claims that Mad Max was filmed on Stockton beach:

    The only big sand dunes featured in a Mad Max movie was in the 3rd movie, Beyond Thunderdome.

    1. What happened to the aircraft (prop) that was abandoned after filming finished? There are pictures if you do a search.

    2. The logistics of getting out to Tin City for filming has never been considered in the claims that filming was done at Tin City.

    3. Which track, from the main road to the beach, was upgraded to get the crew and materials through the bush and over the 20 metre high dune that is at the end of the track?

    4. Why are there no photos or media stories available to prove filming occurred on the beach?

    These are a few of the many questions that can be asked.

  • Rob

    George Miller confirms: Stockton was looked at for filming parts of Mad Max 3, but eventually the scenes were filmed at Kurnell.

    http://heraldmagazines.realviewtechnologies.com/default.aspx?iid=49441&startpage=page0000048

  • the truth

    [edited] – Mad Max was also filmed in Coober Pedy.

  • For clarity I’ll post my email reply to Terry’s original post:

    Terry,

    There are multiple sources referring to the pub scene being filmed in that hut. My information came from tour operator and the owner of the hut.

    Do a search on “tin city mad max” and there is a multitude of sites reporting the same.

    Ted

  • Tour operators are known for making up details about areas they are showing to make them sound more interesting.
    Residnents perpetuating these myths makes their existence a little more interesting than just saying, “They were built by poor people…and nothing much happened after that”.
    As a “Mad Max Officiando” I would be more than a little impressed if I can be shown the scene that includes residences in Tin City. All of the locations of the three Mad Max movies can be found at http://www.madmaxmovies.com/

  • Not even close!
    Mad Max was shot entirely in Victoria.
    Mad Max II was shot mostly arond the Broken Hill area of NSW with the only scene to be shot in Sydney being inside a warehouse.
    Mad Max III, Beyond Thunderdome was shot mostly in a brick quarry near the Homebush Stadium. One scene was shot South of Botanty Bay and that’s as close to Stockton as it got I’m affraid.
    I’d say that you need to check the reliability of your source.
    I had a freind that was told the area was built for a remake of the movie Storm Boy. So obviously there are a lot of movie Furphies going around about Tin City.
    Great photo though!

  • Graeme

    Sorry Ted for the trouble, but I was only asking that the reference to Mad Max be removed as it is misleading. (A quick internet search using the words “mad Max filming locations” will demonstrate.)

    You have made it clear that you are only “repeating the tour guides words” and that you are not interested in validating the tour guides information, in reference to the use of his information on your website, that was provided as part of a paid tour, that you as a customer participated in, of Stockton Beach.

    As Wikipedia is now using your information as a reference you are validating its “Stockton Beach” entry by allowing Wikipedia the use of your information. I hope you can see the paradox here?

    In wikipedia referencing the information, that “you” (through your web site) have provided, other Tour Operators who choose to use Wikipedia for reference material as part of their tours may be considered to be engaged in false or misleading advertising.

    Now I am no lawyer but having spoken to Department of Fair Trading, this department has expressed a serious attitude towards any complaint submitted in connection with any claim concerning the history of Tin City or claims that any movie was filmed on Stockton Beach.

    If you wish to bury your head in the sand so be it, that is your right.

    If you wish to clarify the Mad Max issue I have provided the following links concerning the filming locations.

    Again I do not wish to dishonour your work but I will remind you that you have apparently stated that if a photo offends somebody you will remove it. If this is the case, and it applies to your comments, I hope you will amend your information.

    http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/m/Mad-Max.html#.Uv88i38aySM

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079501/locations

    http://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max/filming-locations/index.html

    http://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max-2-the-road-warrior/filming-locations/index.html

    http://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max-beyond-thunderdome/filming-locations/index.html

    As a person with depression I am always looking for clarity and as such I hope the web links provide you with some clarity also.

    I do not wish to ruin any commercial business by making formal complaints but if the information is wrong or cannot be substantiated in the eyes of the law, it is false.

    It is in the same boat as slander. You repeat a rumour or start one against a person without any proof of the claims made in the statement circulated that statement could be considered misleading and therefore unlawful.

    Why Wikipedia has chosen to use your web site, a New South Wales Parliament record, a tour operators website and a ebook with no reference to Mad Max in the book as references rather than the National Film and Sound Archives is a question people should be asking?

    Yes this subject has taken on a life of its own.

    Please help to end it.

  • Graeme

    Ted are you saying that Mad Max was filmed on Stockton beach?

    I am a bit curious as to the comment that:

    “The pictured man was living in the hut, which was allegedly used as a pub in a famous movie with Mel Gibson – The Mad Max.”

    A number of questions have to be asked:

    1. Which Mad Max movie of the 3 produced was filmed allegedly at Stockton beach?

    2. Which Mad Max movie featured a pub?

    3. Why would a pub be situated away from any roads or other buildings as photos of Tin City show?

    In relation to the claims that Mad Max was filmed on Stockton beach:

    The only big sand dunes featured in a Mad Max movie was in the 3rd movie, Beyond Thunderdome.

    1. What happened to the aircraft (prop) that was abandoned after filming finished? There are pictures if you do a search.

    2. The logistics of getting out to Tin City for filming has never been considered in the claims that filming was done at Tin City.

    3. Which track, from the main road to the beach, was upgraded to get the crew and materials through the bush and over the 20 metre high dune that is at the end of the track?

    4. Why are there no photos or media stories available to prove filming occurred on the beach?

    These are a few of the many questions that can be asked.

  • Rob

    George Miller confirms: Stockton was looked at for filming parts of Mad Max 3, but eventually the scenes were filmed at Kurnell.

    http://heraldmagazines.realviewtechnologies.com/default.aspx?iid=49441&startpage=page0000048

  • the truth

    [edited] – Mad Max was also filmed in Coober Pedy.

  • For clarity I’ll post my email reply to Terry’s original post:

    Terry,

    There are multiple sources referring to the pub scene being filmed in that hut. My information came from tour operator and the owner of the hut.

    Do a search on “tin city mad max” and there is a multitude of sites reporting the same.

    Ted

  • Tour operators are known for making up details about areas they are showing to make them sound more interesting.
    Residnents perpetuating these myths makes their existence a little more interesting than just saying, “They were built by poor people…and nothing much happened after that”.
    As a “Mad Max Officiando” I would be more than a little impressed if I can be shown the scene that includes residences in Tin City. All of the locations of the three Mad Max movies can be found at http://www.madmaxmovies.com/

  • Not even close!
    Mad Max was shot entirely in Victoria.
    Mad Max II was shot mostly arond the Broken Hill area of NSW with the only scene to be shot in Sydney being inside a warehouse.
    Mad Max III, Beyond Thunderdome was shot mostly in a brick quarry near the Homebush Stadium. One scene was shot South of Botanty Bay and that’s as close to Stockton as it got I’m affraid.
    I’d say that you need to check the reliability of your source.
    I had a freind that was told the area was built for a remake of the movie Storm Boy. So obviously there are a lot of movie Furphies going around about Tin City.
    Great photo though!